but these enthusiasm gaps are popping up in more and more polls in governor romney's favor. in the latest nbc news polling, chris, they're showing that seniors are, that 83% of them say that they're enthusiastic about voting. that's up six points from 2008. that's a group that tends to lean republican. but when you look at latinos and young people, enthusiasm among young people down 20 points, enthusiasm among latinos, down 8 points from 2008. those are important voting blocs for the president. >> you've got it, and the deal is this, mitt romney's going to win seniors, 60% of seniors, something like that. he's going to win massively, and tear all going to go vote because they do, because they're good citizens, and they read, and they go vote. that's the deal. what barack obama did in 2008 was expanded the universe of potential democratic voters. he brought in a lot of first-time voters. the footprint of minority voters, the footprint of young voters was larger inside the electorate than usual. the problem with doing that is he promised them a lot of stuff, a lot of stuff in